I saw in the flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[edu328]

Here in São Paulo-Brazil, the car is the same gray car of the wallpapers 180 the car was in one truck. The car looks fantastic( afriend of mine who is not BMW crazy like US, said that car will kill the A3 in sales), I found the kidney gorgeus very shark-like, and the lights are fantastic sculped.The truck driver said the car is in Brazil for the TV-Spot commercial who BMW is filming here in SP.

[BMW.Aaron.TeamF1]

[AR67Duetto]

<font color= gray>( afriend of mine who is not BMW crazy like US, said that car will kill the A3 in sales), </font>

That's what <i>CAR</i> says, in their May '04 feature -> bad news for VW. :-)

[edu328]

[BMW.Aaron.TeamF1]

[58673877]

Oh yeah the 4-pot models from BMW will probably be more popular than the A3 or Golf/GTI. However, both the A3 and GTI are offered with 250hp 3.2L V6s...as well as 190hp 2.8L V6s...

BMW is ignoring all the enthusiasts out there by not offering any 6-pot motors. If they ever make a 130i, that would be THE TOTAL HATCHBACK CAR!

Oh, and Audi has started to mate that 3.2L V6 to their double-clutch system (DSG)...can we have some real SMG in the 1?
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[EdP]

Those fast 4motion A3's and the Golfs are all 3 doors, so the 'coupe' market. Competitors for the 2 series, not the 1. The ONE won't get a big I6. And for all enthusiasts; the M2 will eat those 4motion A3 and Golfs.

EdP

[AR67Duetto]

<font color= gray>BMW is ignoring all the enthusiasts out there by not offering any 6-pot motors.</font>

...according to BMW NA's CEO, Purves.

<font color= gray>If they ever make a 130i, that would be THE TOTAL HATCHBACK CAR!</font>

And, as for the European market, looks like they'll get a 135i.

[AR67Duetto]

<font color= gray>The ONE won't get a big I6.</font>

Source?

FYI, the following TMs have been applied for by BMW:

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120
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130
135 (Europe, not in US)

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<font color= gray>And for all enthusiasts; the M2 will eat those 4motion A3 and Golfs.</font>

Yes. BTW, <i>Automobile</i>, May '04, p. 50, speculates that the M2 will have 300hp.

[58673877]

M2 may eat all those A3s and GTIs...but at what cost? A BMW "M" cost.

It's too bad we won't be seeing a 135i on these shores!
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[EdP]

>Source?
Just a wild guess based on history..The E36/E46 compact models never got a big engine. 2.5L was and is the largest available engine.

And about those TM's, this no proof that some of those exotic models like the 135 will ever appear.

EdP

[AR67Duetto]

<font color= gray>And about those TM's, this no proof that some of those exotic models like the 135 will ever appear.</font>

This is true, of course, but it does indicate that they do indeed have plans; however tentative they may be.

As for wild guesses, it's interesting that "135" was applied for on the same day as "560". Hmm, Alpina???

[Silver Arrow]

[RickKap]

[AR67Duetto]