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Thread: BMW M2 vs Audi RS3
04-30-2004 11:27 PM #1
BMW M2 vs Audi RS3
What do you think about this comparison? According to GCF, the RS3 will be pushing 350hp from a twin-turbo 3.2L V6 unit.
Twin turbos, 350hp...with quattro AWD...this will be VERY fast off the line. BMW needs to step it up (especially after the RS6 plus spanked the E60 M5 before it's even released!).
BMW should really invest in a 3L+ I6 for the M2...or use the good-old turbo approach. Otherwise...BMW is really gonna feel the heat from Ingolstadt.
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08-28-2004 06:54 AM #2
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08-29-2004 12:33 PM #4
Turbo is the way to go.....
Both Rs3 and r32 weight over 1.5 tons.A 3liter 1er series would come close to 1.5 tons too.All these modern power hatches with the big engines are compact in size but offer no significant weight advantage.
Turbo equipment on the other hand is light(just 40 pounds)and a 1.6 liter turbo would have the handling advantage of a 116i with all togther 300-400 pounds less weight on the front axle.
Their new dual turbo technology eliminates turbo lag and can produce up to 10hp/liter in a diesel,in a gasoline engine 15hp/liter should be possible.A 1.6 liter dual turbo would offer 240 hp and weight 20% less than a 330 i. Even a 1.4 liter could produce 220 hp,such a car sold as just an 114ti(without expensive M badge)for say 25 k would be my dream 1er series and a real spiritual successor to the great 2002.
08-30-2004 12:03 PM #5
08-30-2004 07:13 PM #6
Who really wants that girlie micro coupe?
A small BMW should imho look as practical and functional as a Stihl chainsaw like the old 02 did.At least here in europe not so many people will buy a girlie micro coup with a trunk at premium prices,high school kids will lack funds and the others want serious cars for grown ups.
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09-04-2004 03:22 AM #10
Re: BMW M2 vs Audi RS3
RS3 should be very, very fast on a straight line, quattro-traction + 350bhp (or even more), but unless it makes a major leap from the current A3-base, I doubt it will involve the driver like the M-cars do.
RS6 (and RS6+) demonstrate this well, like Mercedes' E55/E65 AMGs, they both accelerate much faster than E39 M5 but their handling is competent at best.
I don't think the M2 (or will be it be M1 now?) is even trying to out-do the RS3 in 0-60 or qm times. I think the M2/M1's real mission is to replace the E30 M3, which was an excellent handling car, but not exceptionally fast on a dragstrip or in the snow ;)!
09-04-2004 03:26 AM #11
they (BMW) should already feel the heat.....
read the auto mags lately ? - S4 beats M3, old A6 beats new 530i, new A8 beats new 745i (first of 8 vs. last place for the 7). new one series stlying is ?? - new A3 styling is very nice. finally bought our first Audi after 8 BMW's. (kept the M3)
2004 S4 Avant\
1996 318ti - sold
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