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06-28-2004 01:45 PM #1
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07-01-2004 02:19 AM #2
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07-01-2004 09:37 PM #3
If you have 1\2 a brain you will see through it
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http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | It's been said that "Fahrenheit 9/11" is the left's "The Passion of the Christ" -- red meat for true believers. Except that it's George W. Bush who sacrifices others on his behalf. Except that Michael Moore's version would have the Sanhedrin in league with the Romans and the aqueduct construction brigades, and it would all be about water.
The question now is what the Democratic establishment will do with this film: embrace it, ignore it or triangulate their way to a position that satisfies the party's reasonable majority while placating the angry loons who want to truss Bush up in his flight jacket and hang him from his heels.
Good luck.
For the constituency that wants John Kerry to wear an "I Like Mike" button for the rest of the campaign, look no further than Al Gore. But keep your distance: The man breathes fire these days. Aides have to print his notes on sheets of asbestos. He's a new man, it seems.
In power, he told us that Saddam Hussein had WMD programs and terrorist connections. Out of power, relying on The Nation instead of those silly CIA briefings, he decides that Iraq was slightly less dangerous than Monaco and certainly not as dangerous as the jackbooted gang that runs Gulag America today.
In a recent speech Gore accused the administration of working with "digital Brownshirts" who pressure the media to conform. You remember the Brownshirts, don't you? Those were the ones who kicked the Jews into cattle cars. Street-thug Nazis.
Well, that's the GOP, you say. Fine. But please understand how "digital Brownshirts" ups the ante. Gone is the sober Al of the Clinton years or the populist of the 2000 campaign. Gorebot 2004 has reprogrammed himself to make Noam Chomsky sound like a Bircher raving about fluoridation.
Why? Does he think that planting a fishhook in the soft palate of the Democratic Party and yanking it hard to the left will land him victory in the future? Is he content just to hold his own tent revivals, basking in the hot waves of applause?
Who knows. But he's done something quite unnecessary here. He's compared the right to Nazis, the gold standard for evil. Lots of yammering moonbats have done that before, of course. But this isn't the rhetoric you expect from party elders. It's like Bob Dole comparing the Dixie Chicks to "musical Mensheviks," or Bush 41 calling Michael Moore a "cinematic Stalinist." At a certain level, you're expected not to engage in nuclear rhetoric.
But hey, everybody does it. Don't they?
Just the other day, the Kerry campaign sent out an e-mail alert accusing the Bush team of calling them Nazis. The Bush-Cheney campaign, losing any last sense of decency, had placed a disgusting ad called "The Faces of John Kerry's Democratic Party" as the main feature on its Web site. Bizarrely, and without explanation, the ad put Adolf Hitler among those faces.
"The Bush-Cheney campaign must pull this ad off of its Web site. The use of Hitler by any campaign, politician or party is simply wrong," the Kerry people wrote.
Nice to know they feel that way. The ad actually referred to Kerry supporters who have called the president the equivalent of Hitler, or used Nazi comparisons like, you know, Brownshirts. Here's the logic: One side says the other is acting like Nazis. The other says, "Hey, don't call us Nazis." The other side responds, "Are you saying we're like Nazis? How dare you!"
The way the fringe is swamping the rhetoric of the Democratic Party, you don't know which might be worse: what they'll do if they win or what they'll do if they don't.
A few words from Kerry might help calm things down. Does he believe in the digital Brownshirts? Does he think that's an improvement in our national discourse? Does Moore's movie make some good points, and, if so, which ones? Is Bush really a stupid Saudi-Nazi cyborg paving the globe to hasten the rule of evangelical Christian oil executives eager to herd us into Wal-Mart-branded sweatshops?
Is Gore-Moore the future of your party or not?
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07-01-2004 09:44 PM #4
Re: Farenheit 9/11 the real story
in custody — domestic America harmers still at large
http://www.NewsAndOpinion.com | The Americanization of Iraq proceeds at an astonishing pace, the Iraqis are taking to freedom like fish to water, and the possibilities for this nation are endless. It's hard to say who's more upset about these developments: the last vestiges of pro-Hussein Baathist resistance in Iraq or John Kerry's campaign manager.
The New York Times ran a front-page news story on Sunday about how life was better for Iraqi girls under Saddam Hussein — living under Saddam, that is, not the girls who were literally under Saddam, Odai and Qusai while they were being raped. The article was titled "For Iraqi Girls, Changing Land Narrows Lives." True, they don't have to run from Odai's rape rooms anymore. But apparently not a single Iraqi female has been admitted to Augusta National Golf Club since the liberation!
The Democrats want Saddam back.
Of course we can't be sure if their presidential candidate wants Saddam back, inasmuch as John Kerry will be in an undisclosed location until Election Day. As Mickey Kaus has pointed out, every time Kerry starts campaigning, his poll numbers plummet. According to a recent New York Times poll, after $60 million in warm and fuzzy TV ads about Kerry, 40 percent of Americans have no opinion of him. In other words, the ads are working! So Kerry will be sitting out the actual campaign this year.
But he's got a lot of surrogates campaigning for him. There's Michael Moore, who has said he hopes more Americans will die in Iraq. His movie, "Fahrenheit 7/11" as we call it, apparently supports the Times' view that life in Iraq was better, sunnier, happier under Saddam Hussein. Moore has also accused the American people of being the stupidest, most naive people on the face of the Earth. And after last weekend, he's got the box office numbers to prove it!
Moore keeps whining about all the right-wing hit groups out to get him. Granted he's a large target (or what's known in baseball as a "fat pitch"). But conservatives are frankly relieved we finally have a liberal who tells the truth about what he thinks of America.
Then there's George Soros, who compared Israel to Nazi Germany and President George Bush to the Nazis. Soros later denied comparing Bush to the Nazis, saying he had merely said Bush reminded him of "the Germans." Hmmm, which Germans was Soros referring to — the Von Trapp Family? Katarina Witt and Steffi Graf? Eric Braeden from "The Young and the Restless"? Wouldn't Soros like Bush if he were similar to the new pacifist, America-hating Germans? If not, why did liberals keep pestering us to get Germany's approval before we invaded Iraq?
Soros blames President Bush for anti-Semitism, and then proceeds directly to the usual liberal talking points attacking Israel. He says Israeli policies are to blame for anti-Semitism — coming in a close second after the Von Trapp-like Bush — and Israel was a large part of the reason the United States went to war with Iraq. Also oil, which would certainly explain why gas is so cheap now.
Apparently, given a choice between: (a) lifting the sanctions against Iraq so oil sales could resume, for the cost of a single phone call, and (b) a war costing $120 billion and nearly 900 U.S. lives so far, Bush chose (b). Seriously, there are still adults in the English-speaking world with opposable thumbs who believe this theory?
And then there's Howard Dean, who thinks Bush was in cahoots with the Saudis — and he's the centrist of the bunch. I'm looking forward to Dean's address at the Democratic Convention this summer. Rumor has it he'll end with a squeal so high-pitched only dogs will be able to hear it.
I admire their savage energy, but these people want to run the country. Even with all their money and power, I don't think they could get the Haitians to let them govern. But Soros and company think they should be running the United States of America.
Apart from the fact that Kerry won't come out of hiding while allowing the nuts to attack Bush for him, these aren't random nobodies popping up to endorse Kerry. Howard Dean was considerably more likely to be the Democratic nominee for president than Joe Lieberman ever was.
Soros has vowed to spend $15 million to defeat George Bush this year — buying himself more influence than the entire populations of several states.
Michael Moore's endorsement was proudly accepted by erstwhile Democratic presidential candidate Wesley Clark, who — just to counterbalance his own remarks defending infanticide as "a private matter between a woman and her doctor" — explicitly defended some of Moore's loopier remarks, which is saying something.
Come to think of it, it's no surprise they want Saddam Hussein back. He made the Democrats seem moderate by comparison.
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07-06-2004 11:03 PM #8Registered Member
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Especially when Moore admitted it was spin:
Moore never professed to be a journalist or unbiased. He does have an agenda and he wanted to create a piece to get people fired up. Many bits of truth are there just to pieced together and many of those pieces do paint a portrait of a very poorly run white house. It isn't hard to discover that Bush Jr. is an inept, most-likely corrupt CEO and your typical "profit at any cost" businessman. He is also trying to shove his religious ideals on the American people using his current position. He also has no idea how to do his job without a lot of help from his handlers.
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07-22-2004 04:24 AM #9
Believe this...
Bush openly admitted that we didnt have any evidence that SAddam was involved with 9-11...and then all of a sudden he tried to tell us he had all kinds of evidence...
Hit the player below to hear for yourself...

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07-25-2004 04:26 PM #10
sometimes you have to think, or investigate..
before you believe. see the following link.
I look at it this way, if you hate Bush, fine, but, at least hate him for legitimate reasons (you like higher taxes, you like the govt telling you what to think, ie. political correctness, etc.), and not for the shallow crap that comes out of the limosene liberals.
http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm
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07-29-2004 04:03 PM #11
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08-01-2004 11:42 AM #12
Stuff like this is so gay
Sorry he misspoke. I dont suppose you ever do that yourself. It doesnt take a genious to figure out he was trying to say he had no proof of his involvement but he had a lot of evidence. But no, you punk_*** liberals stand up for hitler jr. and his rights. He would have done something in the near future, as if what he was doing to those of his own people who he thought to be infidels. If you hate bush thats cool. I hate a lot of things too. Doesnt mean I blatantly ignore reality and talk_**** just cause. Look at clinton and his I didnt have sexual relations with the fat skank. He flip flopped on that completely in a few months. You might be saying its okay to lie about that kind of stuff. No, not under oath and on camera. He woulda lied about whatever else was conveinient too. Its not a new thing. But [Oops!], everybody loves clinton. Even though he was so much more at fault for 9/11 after his 8 years of cutting spending on national security and defense. Too bad noone here or anywhere else seems to see how the cause and effect thing works. So bush wont get reelected. Then everyone is gonna see that the democratic idea of a middle class family is different than most everyone elses. Everybody else on up from there that worked hard for their money will have to pay more taxes to help out the [Oops!] dragging end of the population. And 4 bucks a gallon for gas. And tightening emissions standards. And lower speed limits to protect wildlife crossing the roads. Just looking at whats gonna concern our bimmers, liberals are bad news.
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08-01-2004 08:24 PM #13Registered Member
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Re: Farenheit 9/11
For those of you still supporting Resident Bush.
Sometime, when you are alone, ask yourselves just how badly your candidate would have to screw up in order to lose your support.
If the answer is "he would *never* lose my support!", then what does that say about the ideal of electing only the best?
(Is it really too late to put John McCain on the GOP ticket?)
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08-03-2004 12:45 AM #14
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08-03-2004 12:46 AM #15
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08-03-2004 06:48 PM #16
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08-03-2004 06:51 PM #17
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08-04-2004 02:07 PM #18
Doesnt mean you should buy into one or the other
Look at some facts. Bush took out Hussein, who was at the same point is his dictatorship as Hitler was in 1936. Raped Al-Qieda, all they can do is mail some audio casettes saying "we're really mad now". The only threat now is from fragmented groups of suicide bombers and such. Now the dems are trying to tell us that Bush was responsible for 9/11. Thats retarded. Its all retarded. You can choose to look at what bush has done or you can look at what everybody thinks he shouldve done. Monday morning quarterbacks, no one likes them, and its quite obvious hindsight is 20/20. The only thing you can blame bush for is bad timing. He got in right after clinton, who got the economy smokin by cutting spending on defense and intelligence. So everything looked great to the average dude. The Bush comes in and 9/11 happens because clinton had already put the rubber band around the balls of the military and intelligence programs. The the econony ate ****_because things like massive losses of life and declaration of war tends to knock the wind from peoples sails. Now its just starting to come around again. All the robin hood style [Oops!] the liberals are coming up with disgusting. Gotta look at the facts, unless youre too settled on the anti bush bandwagon already. You dont have to beleive me now. In three years I'll be here, and I know I'll be saying "I hate to say I told you so". Thats also a fact.
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08-04-2004 02:09 PM #19
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