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10-17-2004 08:59 AM #1
125i forces new 3-series far further to upmarket
With 4-cyl Ones already being far more expensive than their rivals, the '05 125i forces the new 3-series much further into "upmarket" than expected, stepping over the 3-year old e60 5-series with added legroom and excessive electrically controlled gimmicks! It seems the 5-series badly needs to go into upmarket itself!
10-19-2004 04:07 AM #2
All cars grow. And get more expensive.
And get more "gimmicks". Isn't the current 5 about 3K more expensive than the old model?
But to me, the gap between the next 3 and the new 5-Series is bigger than the gap between the old 5 and current 3-Series!
Those cars were very much the same, but with a different scale. Technology was the same because those cars shared almost everything. Styling was very close too.
The next generation 3 does share the engines with the 5, like always, but unlike the 5, that got a bit lighter thanks to using more aluminium than ever, the next 330i is heavier than the current 330i, despite the new low weight engine!
And the styling is no longer a variation of the same theme. I always prefered the 3-Series over the 5. I had 4 of them. Maybe next time, I would switch camp... The 5-Series styling is more modern than the rather conservative new 3-Series. I like modern! If my budget for a familycar would stretch to a 6-cilinder model, I'd prefer the 5. A 535d touring, yummy! If not, I'd settle for the 320d touring.
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10-19-2004 08:22 AM #3
Re: All cars grow. And get more expensive.
I understand the new Three has to make room for the 1-ser saloon and estate, which is a streched version of 5-dr.
These promise to be softer and luxo'd compared to the more sporty 3 and 5-dr hacthbacks. Also there may be an even taller 1-series van (think X1)..
These would compete squarely with the e46.
10-19-2004 10:09 AM #4
Re: 125i forces new 3-series far further to upmarket
1er 5-door hatch: new niche model
1er 3-dr hatch: replacement for 3er ti/Compact
1er Cabrio/Coupe: replacements for e46 Ci models
1er estate: replaces e46 touring
1er van/suv (unconfirmed): new niche model, probably remains rear-wheel drive only
1er saloon: replacement for BMW's bestseller, the e46 saloon
Z1 roadster (unconfirmed): replament for affordable 2-seat roadster (Z3)
Z1 Coupe (very unlikely, but remotely possible): replacement for Z3 Coupe and the REAL spiritual successor to E30 M3
10-28-2004 12:46 AM #5
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