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    Great race in Brazil.....

    Brazil turned out to be a interesting race on many levels!!

    First, with Michael forced to start in the back we had more of real race. Surprising how without Michael Ferrari seems much more equal with everyone else. Goes to show that the majority of Ferrari's advantage is likely attributed to pit strategy and race tactics and not so much attributed to the car itself. True Ferrari has an awesome car, but Brazil showed how close everyone else was.

    Second, It was fantastic to see Williams leading the show again!! What can I say, I loved every minute of it and I am sad to see Montoya go. He is a scrapper, the kinda guy that will not sit back and watch. Rather he will fight and claw and assert himself to better his postion. Some people are turned off by that mentality, I prefer it and enjoy his race style! I do agree his personality may need some refinement, but hey, that is who he is!

    Third, next year should be wickedly interesting to watch how Kimi and Juan go at it. I doubt Juan will ever sit back and take second to Kimi. Juan is a fighter (with a hot wife too)!!

    Forth, what the heck, only two sets of tires for the entire race weekend???????????? WTF???? They will need street Michelins to do that!! I could loan then my Pilots if need be. Rediculous! What about if they have flats? Are they done then? Some of these rules are almost archaic.

    Finally, not a huge nascar fan, but thoughts and prayers are with the Hendrick Motorsport group for the loss they suffered this weekend!

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    Yes they've done it again.....

    Once again Williams has showed their true potential when it no longer makes ANY difference... It's good to know that they still can do it though... All we can do is hope for next year-----------------------------------------------------
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    you broke my foockkin head.

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    Re: Great race in Brazil.....

    Noro is right...
    BMW/W, and McClarren have finaly gotten their cars to a level where they can compete with the Ferrari, at least on some tracks. But it comes too late in the year. Hopefully they will start off better next year (hope springs eternal)(Plus, BMW may not be back because of the engine thing).
    And it is not just MS, it is the car. Their reliability is stellar, they obviously handle better than the other cars, over the first 10 races at least. They also got the cars prepared better, they executed their pitting better, and so on... MS looks just a sour as any other driver when his car is not up to snuff. Well, that is not really true, he looks just as bad as any of the other TOP drivers. Look at the last race, he spun himself durring the race. He caught up to the 7th place car, but couldn't get past. The car just did not have enough to do so. MS does make mistakes, and he can't do it without the right car under him. This last race proves that. And Ferrari does make mistakes, keeping RB out for two extra laps with intermediate tires killed the race for them.

    The tire thing is going to be interesting. I don't know how they are going to manage that. It seems a bit silly to me.<html>
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    1 thing to remembr every1, Ferrari stop developing

    04 car after locking up the WDC & WCC. That was about 4-5 races ago.
    While all the other teams were still developing theirs to fight for spots.

    Ferrari were already testing their '05 specs @ Fioriano already a couple of weeks back.

    So 24/7 till next March may still not be enough for Wills & Mac...


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    Unfortunately, Brazil was a fluke, not the future

    In addition to the fact that Ferrari stopped developing the F2004 months ago, the following factors suggest Juan's Brazil win was more of an anomoly than an indication that 2005 will be a more competitive season:

    1. The Michelins are a better tire in the light-damp conditions that dominated on Sunday. Ferraristone needed either bone dry or good-and-wet, but got neither. In bone dry, the Ferrari was faster all weekend.

    2. And perhaps the Ferrari set up just wasn't optimal for what the weather conditions turned out to be, i.e., they got out-guessed.

    3. JPM is good on this track and good on any track when the conditions are less than perfect. Kimi sure ain't no slouch. Both are much better than Ruebens, anyway, who was their main competition. Because of factor #1, this was a race were Ferraristone needed to play its trump card--MS--but he was buried deep in the deck.

    4. MS was stuck in P7 because he didn't have the right set up to pass, i.e., he was in the same position vis-a-vis Ralph (and Sato) that Ralph was in vis-a-vis MS in 2002. So even if MS had the capability to lap a bit quicker, he wasn't quicker in the spot he needed to be (out of the last corner before the straight).

    Note that these propositions add up to a rare combination of circumstances on the Michelin runners' side and do not fortell an end to the Ferraristone dominance.

    I've said it before and will say it again. As long as one team is allowed its own, personal tire manufacturer (and is willing to spend countless $ and hours doing solo tire testing), there is no way the other teams can consistently compete using the semi-generic rubber that Michelin gives them. There is no real hope for the situation to change before the Concorde Agreement runs out at the end of 2007, so absent a whole series of flukey races (as happened in 2003)or some sort of major Ferraristone design miscalculation, we're in for three more seasons of dominance by the Big Red Machine.

    Yawn. Sign. Grumble.

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    & don't forget that Ferrari has their own test

    track & the FIA in their back pockets. PLus they were the only ones to not sign the limited test ban treaty this past week.

    Agreed with everything you wrote.

    Ugh...

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    Re: Unfortunately, Brazil was a fluke, not the future

    Yes, it was a bit of a fluke. I did not say, and I do not think that it is indicative of what will happen next year. I said I HOPE. Hope, the source of our greatest strength, and our greatest weakness ;)

    Ferrari did fumble a bit on this one, but that just shows that they are human and they can make mistakes.

    I liked what I heard about the aero changes, but am not too sure about the engine thing. And the tire rule sounds nuts to me. They say it is to reduce costs, but we all know that none of this will help. It is probably more to slow the cars down to make it safer. I would like to see changes that make the cars better for racing. What those changes are, I don't know.<html>
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